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Onyx2201
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As the debates in schools continues about how to teach the origins of the earth. Creation, Intelligent Design, Big Bang, Evolution; I'm wondering where you all stand on your understanding of the creation.

I've heard a number of differing Christian viewpoints, and wondering what some of the folks here believe.

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Genesis 1: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Day One

   1. Watery, formless planet Earth suspended in the darkness and void of space (no stars, no sun, no moon, no planets - except for Earth).
   2. Light.
   3. Separation of light from the darkness - and the first indication that the planet is rotating (day and night cycle produced).

Day Two

   4. Formation of Earth's atmosphere, separating the water into two parts:
           (a) oceanic and subterranean water
           (b) atmospheric water.

Day Three

   5. Dry land and oceans.
   6. System to water the entire land surface using subterranean waters (involving springs or mist, or both).
   7. Vegetation, seed-bearing plants, trees that bear fruit.
   8. Garden of Eden (probably).

Day Four

   9. Sun
  10. Moon - complete with established orbit so as to mark passage of time (months, seasons, and years).
  11. Stars and other planets.

Day Five

  12. Water creatures of all kinds. (All that had “the breath of life” were vegetarian.)
  13. Birds (all vegetarian).

Day Six

  14. Land animals (all vegetarian): (a) creatures that move close to the ground (small animals), (b) large animals, and (c) animals of use to man as livestock.
  15. Man.
  16. Woman (saving the best for last?).


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I agree with Gary, the Bible spells it out quite clearly.

Evolution and Creation cannot be reconciled as many attempt.



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How long were the days?

How many years ago?

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How long were the days?

Again, on this the Scripture is quite clear, right from the beginning. These were 24 hour days.

Gensisi 1:5
God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.


"...there was evening, and there was morning..." What else could that mean? Anything other than a 24 hour day is stretching Scripture to accomodate some other belief.
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How many years ago?

It's really not important to me how old the earth is, we're not specifically told in the Bible. However, I doubt that it's millions of years old, and hold to the young earth thinking of probabaly a few thousand years.


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Okay thanks for responding.

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My husband and I got into a debate about who created the Earth...God the Father, God the Son or God the Spirit.

Clearly, most people think it was God the Father. In fact, try polling 10 people (in your church!) and see how they answer.

However, John 1 states it is, in fact, God the Son. Genesis also states that the Spirit was involved in creation. What about God the Father? My Pastor says that the Father laid out the plans, Jesus just followed through...but I can't find scripture to back this.

But, if God lives outside of time, how can we be sure how longit actually took? Couldn't He have just said 6 days, so us stupid humans could have a idea of how creation happened? I'm no scientist (thank god), but what about carbon dating? Isn't it clear that the Earth is older than 6-10,000 years?

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SoDoneLurking wrote:

But, if God lives outside of time, how can we be sure how longit actually took? Couldn't He have just said 6 days, so us stupid humans could have a idea of how creation happened? I'm no scientist (thank god), but what about carbon dating? Isn't it clear that the Earth is older than 6-10,000 years?



If you do any research regarding carbon dating results (ie read data for reports) you will find that the system is terribly flawed. Scientists will get carbon dating information indicating dinosaur fossils are only a few thousand years old. They just throw that data out because in their minds it obviously cannot be true (actually this kind of thing happens quite often in scientific research, I have done it myself).

I totally agree that the whole creation story is probably "dumbed down" so us human idiots can at least kind of understand how God created the earth (or even how long it took).

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Personally I believe, the creation story is metaphor, so that our limited minds can comprehend an incredible process, in a limited way.


Edited by Onyx2201, 10/7/2007, 10:25 am


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But, if God lives outside of time, how can we be sure how longit actually took?

Let me ask you this:
Let's say that the Creation was done is 6 literal days. How then, could the account be written differently to make that more clear?

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